[yt-dev] [yt-users] Mailing list archives

Nathan Goldbaum nathan12343 at gmail.com
Thu May 7 12:49:19 PDT 2015


On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> (Dropping users' list)
>
> I have investigated, and we could potentially move mailing list hosting to
> NCSA without losing the existing archives.  The biggest issue I see with
> that would be that for it to happen, yt-project.org (which I'd want to
> move the lists to) would need to be transferred to NCSA/UIUC's ownership.
> While this means I might not need to pay the renewal fees out of the money
> I would otherwise be squandering on exploring limited edition flavors of
> mountain dew, it would also mean that the project would become ever more
> affiliated with NCSA, which is something I have been somewhat leery about.
> Part of the reason for this is that I'm sensitive to it being "an NCSA
> project" or being too strongly tied to a single institution, particularly
> because that may have weird, difficult-to-quantify ramifications with the
> community.  On the other hand, maybe I'm making too much out of that.
>  (Although, it would mean folks would need NCSA usernames -- easily
> available, mind you -- to log in to the webserver.)
>
> If we decided that was all fine and happytimes, we could do the migration
> like this, avoiding any loss of information:
>
>  * Remain on dreamhost long enough to migrate all the mailing lists to
> lists.yt-project.org, including setting up email forwarding from the
> spacepope.org email addresses.  (This step is somewhat optional.)
>  * Move the DNS and archives and mailing lists to an NCSA-hosted instance,
> still at lists.yt-project.org.
>  * Move all the web site stuff over to yt-project.org hosted at NCSA.
>  * I close down my dreamhost account.
>
> Now, in principle, I'm fine with this -- lots of projects are hosted at
> institutions.  But, yt also predates any NCSA affiliation.
>
> So, I dunno.
>
>
So long as URLs reference yt-project.org rather than an NCSA or UIUC domain
I don't think it really matters.  We could move hosting in the future if we
had a need to.


> -Matt
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:40 PM, John ZuHone <jzuhone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you ask me, the time for migration is long past, but I appreciate the
>> fact that you had more patience than I. :)
>>
>> John ZuHone
>> Kavli Center for Astrophysics and Space Research
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> 77 Massachusetts Ave., 37-582G
>> Cambridge, MA 02139
>> (w) 617-253-2354
>> (m) 781-708-5004
>> jzuhone at space.mit.edu
>> jzuhone at gmail.com
>> http://www.jzuhone.com
>>
>> On May 7, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've submitted, for the sixth time, a ticket to dreamhost asking why our
>> mailing list archives are still unavailable.  I have said that at the very
>> least, I would like access to the archives in either mbox or internal
>> mailman format; if they cannot give me an ETA on when the mailing list
>> archives will be available, I'm going to plan a migration somewhere else.
>>
>> This email took ten minutes to write, since I've been unable in all that
>> time to identify the correct emoji to communicate the particular mixture of
>> frustration, annoyance and powerlessness I feel about this particular topic.
>>
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