[yt-dev] [yt-users] Mailing list archives

[Matthew Turk]

Hi John,

(Dropping users' list)

I have investigated, and we could potentially move mailing list hosting to
NCSA without losing the existing archives.  The biggest issue I see with
that would be that for it to happen, yt-project.org (which I'd want to move
the lists to) would need to be transferred to NCSA/UIUC's ownership.  While
this means I might not need to pay the renewal fees out of the money I
would otherwise be squandering on exploring limited edition flavors of
mountain dew, it would also mean that the project would become ever more
affiliated with NCSA, which is something I have been somewhat leery about.
Part of the reason for this is that I'm sensitive to it being "an NCSA
project" or being too strongly tied to a single institution, particularly
because that may have weird, difficult-to-quantify ramifications with the
community.  On the other hand, maybe I'm making too much out of that.
 (Although, it would mean folks would need NCSA usernames -- easily
available, mind you -- to log in to the webserver.)

If we decided that was all fine and happytimes, we could do the migration
like this, avoiding any loss of information:

 * Remain on dreamhost long enough to migrate all the mailing lists to
lists.yt-project.org, including setting up email forwarding from the
spacepope.org email addresses.  (This step is somewhat optional.)
 * Move the DNS and archives and mailing lists to an NCSA-hosted instance,
still at lists.yt-project.org.
 * Move all the web site stuff over to yt-project.org hosted at NCSA.
 * I close down my dreamhost account.

Now, in principle, I'm fine with this -- lots of projects are hosted at
institutions.  But, yt also predates any NCSA affiliation.

So, I dunno.

-Matt

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:40 PM, John ZuHone <jzuhone at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you ask me, the time for migration is long past, but I appreciate the
> fact that you had more patience than I. :)
>
> John ZuHone
> Kavli Center for Astrophysics and Space Research
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> 77 Massachusetts Ave., 37-582G
> Cambridge, MA 02139
> (w) 617-253-2354
> (m) 781-708-5004
> jzuhone at space.mit.edu
> jzuhone at gmail.com
> http://www.jzuhone.com
>
> On May 7, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've submitted, for the sixth time, a ticket to dreamhost asking why our
> mailing list archives are still unavailable.  I have said that at the very
> least, I would like access to the archives in either mbox or internal
> mailman format; if they cannot give me an ETA on when the mailing list
> archives will be available, I'm going to plan a migration somewhere else.
>
> This email took ten minutes to write, since I've been unable in all that
> time to identify the correct emoji to communicate the particular mixture of
> frustration, annoyance and powerlessness I feel about this particular topic.
>
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