[yt-dev] 2nd yt workshop

Nathan Goldbaum nathan12343 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 14:34:55 PDT 2012 

I'm happy to organize.  I'll send out another e-mail in a little bit.

On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Matthew Turk wrote:

> Hi Nathan,
> 
> That would be great if you would be on the LOC.  I think UCSC would be
> a gorgeous venue for a development workshop.
> 
> I see three options:
> 
> 1) December for everything: give everybody a nice, wintertime
> California visit. (This option is new!)
> 2) December for low-key meetup like I mentioned earlier for whoever
> might be in the area or wants to come, with a proper, funded
> Development workshop on the March dates.
> 3) March-only.
> 
> I think #2 is the easiest.
> 
> Let's do a hangout -- would you be willing to organize it?
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd be interested in collaborating on the proposal and serving as an LOC
>> representative if we decide to have the meeting at UCSC.
>> 
>> Perhaps it would be a good idea to set up a hangout to discuss the proposal,
>> establish a budget, and figure out who is going to work on which parts.
>> 
>> -Nathan
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Geoffrey So wrote:
>> 
>> Got the following email, it's HiPACC soliciting proposals, I thought would
>> be useful for the workshop.
>> Thought someone was already looking into it, but just in case.
>> 
>> From
>> G.S.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Subject: Requests for Proposals Fall '12/Winter '13
>> 
>> Dear Astrophysics faculty, staff and students:
>> 
>> We at the University of California High-Performance AstroComputing Center
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>> '12/Winter '13
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>> computational
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>> The online application is open. Please go to
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>> Proposals.
>> 
>> Following instructions in the above site, proposers may apply for funding in
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>> for
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>> Applications may
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>> 
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>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Joel Primack, UC-HiPACC Director
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>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM, John ZuHone <jzuhone at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm in for it. But no more Chicago bashing regarding the cold (I know that
>>> was a while back, but still) :)
>>> 
>>> John Z
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Casey W. Stark wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Matt.
>>> 
>>> I would definitely go to a little west coast meetup.
>>> 
>>> - Casey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, what about the second set of dates?  March 4-8?
>>>> 
>>>> Although, to be perfectly honest, after how active the list has been
>>>> and how many things there have been discussed that would benefit from
>>>> -- or may even *require* -- in person contact, I am a bit bummed that
>>>> we can't get together sooner, to do things like talk about testing,
>>>> release schedules, better SPH/particle support, codifying analysis
>>>> modules and figuring out some packaging issues.
>>>> 
>>>> In December there's a scientific software workshop at TACC:
>>>> 
>>>> http://scisoftdays.org/meetings/2012/
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone interested in going, and if so, perhaps having an in-person
>>>> meeting in the area held in conjunction with this?  Or, if not, then
>>>> maybe triyng to have a west coast meeting in December?  By then I
>>>> think the job scramble should have subsided considerably (certainly I
>>>> am counting on it for myself!) even if it picks up again a bit later.
>>>> 
>>>> -Matt
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Britton Smith <brittonsmith at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would prefer not the first set of dates.  I have a thing in Austin,
>>>>> TX on
>>>>> February 17.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Britton
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Okay, after a week or so we've had 13 positive responses.  January is
>>>>>> the worst month, so I'd like to suggest we investigate either February
>>>>>> or March.  California is the clear winner for locations, which I think
>>>>>> will also help out a lot with funding and with overall atmosphere.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to propose we start talking about one of the following three
>>>>>> weeks -- we should then narrow down to a subset of days in the week.
>>>>>> Can anyone think of existing conflicts for, or obvious preferences
>>>>>> among:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) February 18-22
>>>>>> 2) March 4-8
>>>>>> 3) March 25-29
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (An advantage of this time frame is that the elephant seals will be at
>>>>>> Año Nuevo, if we end up spending time at Santa Cruz.)  Once we have
>>>>>> narrowed down the week, we can write a proposal to HIPACC as Chris
>>>>>> suggested, and proceed from there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think this could be a very, very successful meeting for our
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Christopher Moody <cemoody at ucsc.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>> Sorry to join this conversation late. I've talked about this (very
>>>>>>> briefly!)
>>>>>>> with Joel Primack for HIPACC funding, and he was very supportive
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> we should write up a proposal. He comes back from China next week,
>>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> bring it up again then.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Santa Cruz is a bit warmer than Chicago in January...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> chris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Matthew Turk
>>>>>>> <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We've had a good number of responses so far, all of them "Yes!".
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you're a regular contributor to either the mailing list or the code
>>>>>>>> base, it would be really beneficial to submit a "Nope" response if
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> know you wouldn't be able to attend.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpZMjc4czJMQ2MtWERReVdiT0IxaFE6MQ#gid=0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Matthew Turk
>>>>>>>> <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I like this idea a lot.  We had a really good success with this
>>>>>>>>> year's
>>>>>>>>> workshop, and I think we can build on that with a
>>>>>>>>> development-focused
>>>>>>>>> workshop sometime early next year.  I particularly like the way
>>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>> posed it:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "...to have a group of us in a room together for a few days to
>>>>>>>>> hash
>>>>>>>>> out new features, discuss where the code is going, hear about the
>>>>>>>>> science yt is enabling, and make some solid progress on improving
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> code."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My life is going to be a little bit complicated for a couple
>>>>>>>>> months,
>>>>>>>>> but I think aiming for a Winter quarter workshop would be best,
>>>>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>>>> think that will minimize conflicts with the usual fall
>>>>>>>>> obligations/cycle.  Unless there are strong arguments to hold the
>>>>>>>>> workshop in New York / Boulder, we should probably look into
>>>>>>>>> hosting
>>>>>>>>> in California somewhere.  (One respondent to the usage workshop
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> this year was, "Chicago in January?  Really?")  I think we should
>>>>>>>>> certainly investigate HIPACC as an opportunity for funding, as
>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> the NSF; once we have figured out if we're going to hold it and
>>>>>>>>> where,
>>>>>>>>> we can begin those processes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Before we start digging in to properly planning something, we
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> definitely get a better idea of who would be interested in
>>>>>>>>> attending.
>>>>>>>>> I've set up a little survey here:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHpZMjc4czJMQ2MtWERReVdiT0IxaFE6MQ#gid=0
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Responses both for and against are useful information.  In a few
>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>> we'll see how things have turned out and we can take it from
>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Anthony Scopatz
>>>>>>>>> <scopatz at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Matt and I talked about doing a yt-dev workshop at some point in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> near-ish future.  I am definitely +1 to this idea.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Be Well
>>>>>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Nathan Goldbaum
>>>>>>>>>> <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kacper,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Right now there are no official plans for a yt workshop.
>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>> of us have discussed the possibility of having a
>>>>>>>>>>> development-focused
>>>>>>>>>>> workshop for ~20 people at UC Santa Cruz for 3-4 days sometime
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Winter
>>>>>>>>>>> quarter (Jan - Mar 2013).  I put forward UCSC as a possible
>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> there are a decent number of active users/developers here and
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Bay
>>>>>>>>>>> area, however I think a meeting in Boulder or NYC probably
>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> much sense.  For any of the options, we will need to look into
>>>>>>>>>>> funding
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> travel, hotels, etc for the participants.  I know that we
>>>>>>>>>>> applied
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> an NSF
>>>>>>>>>>> grant for the users workshop, is that still possible this time
>>>>>>>>>>> around?
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> it's going to be in California and we can make a case that
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>> good number of participants from UCs, we can probably apply for
>>>>>>>>>>> funding from
>>>>>>>>>>> HIPACC, although we need to discuss this possibility further
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>> Primack.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess this is as good a time as any to ask: how do people
>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> having a dev workshop sometime in the Winter quarter?  If
>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>> supportive,
>>>>>>>>>>> do you have any preference for a location?  Personally I think
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> very productive to have a group of us in a room together for a
>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>> days to
>>>>>>>>>>> hash out new features, discuss where the code is going, hear
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> science yt is enabling, and make some solid progress on
>>>>>>>>>>> improving
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> code.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to ask if there are any plans on organizing 2nd yt
>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop?
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's this time of the year when I need to apply for grants at
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> university and I'd very much like to include such event in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> application :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kacper
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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