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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hmm, odd. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">At this point the best suggestion is Nathan’s—if you are able to post your dataset somewhere for us to look at, that would be helpful.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can shoot me private mail at <a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" class="">jzuhone@gmail.com</a> if you don’t want it to go out to the whole list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Jason Galyardt <<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Hi John,</p><p dir="ltr" class="">There is no traceback; it fails silently.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Jason</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 28, 2015 5:37 PM, "John Zuhone" <<a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" class="">jzuhone@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Jason,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What is your traceback now? I’m also getting a failure over here but I want to check it against yours. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Jason Galyardt <<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Thanks, John. My domain size is 4 x 4 x 24 kpc, and the size of the smallest cell is 31.25 pc, according to print_stats(). Here's the grid info, in case it's useful:<br class=""><br class="">level # grids # cells # cells^3<br class="">----------------------------------------------<br class=""> 0 48 24576 30<br class=""> 1 384 196608 59<br class=""> 2 3072 1572864 117<br class=""> 3 24448 12517376 233<br class="">----------------------------------------------<br class=""> 27952 14311424<br class=""><br class=""></div>Cheers,<br class=""></div>Jason<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:00 PM, John ZuHone <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jzuhone@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">When I come back from the colloquium I will see what I can do with one of my own datasets.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jason, what is your domain size, and the size of the smallest cell?<br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size:13pt;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">John ZuHone</span><br class=""><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Kavli Center for Astrophysics and Space Research<br class="">Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br class=""><a class="">77 Massachusetts Ave.</a>, 37-582G<br class=""><a class="">Cambridge, MA 02139</a><br class="">(w) <a href="tel:617-253-2354" target="_blank" class="">617-253-2354</a><br class="">(m) <a href="tel:781-708-5004" target="_blank" class="">781-708-5004</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:jzuhone@space.mit.edu" target="_blank" class="">jzuhone@space.mit.edu</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jzuhone@gmail.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.jzuhone.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.jzuhone.com</a></span><br style="font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody" class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">We have several public FLASH test datasets here:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://yt-project.org/data/" target="_blank" class="">http://yt-project.org/data/</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm not sure whether any of them have both gas and particles. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you're ok with it and your dataset isn't enormous, it might help to share one of the data files you're working with. We've used dropbox or google drive to share big files on the mailing list in the past.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Jason Galyardt <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi John,<br class=""><br class=""></div>It sounds like we have a bug in v3.0.2. But it's still not working in v3.2dev. Do you have any test data that you can use to confirm? I would just like to make sure it's not user error before I submit a bug report.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">By the way, my output files seem fine - I can plot both gas density and particle locations simultaneously in VisIt.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Cheers,<br class=""></div>Jason<br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:44 PM, John Zuhone <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jzuhone@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">The reason why this would not work in previous yt versions is that annotate_particles assumed code units for length, which for flash are centimeters. So “4" would be 4 cm, a ridiculously thin slab, which would explain why you end up with a zero selection. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It should work now, based on looking at the code, so if it doesn’t then we definitely have a bug. </div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Jason Galyardt<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class=""></div>I've updated to the latest development release of yt (v3.2dev). I no longer get the ValueError to do with zero length selections when I do annotate_particles(). However, I don't get any particles in the plot either. Any other ideas?<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Can you try:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">p.annotate_particles((4, 'kpc'))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If that works, can you file a bug about annotate_particles not handling widths that are YTQuantity instances correctly?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/yt/issues/new" target="_blank" class="">https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/yt/issues/new</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Thanks,<br class=""></div>Jason<br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Yuan Li<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bear0980@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">bear0980@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Jason,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I had trouble with Flash particles last year, and John ZuHone fixed the bug. Could you try the newest yt3 and see if the problem goes away?</div><span class=""><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yuan</div></font></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Jason Galyardt<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Nathan,<br class=""><br class=""></div>I'm using yt version 3.0.2 (which I see is not quite current) on Debian 7 (wheezy). I tried to pastebin the iPython error traceback, but it failed with a complaint that the MySQL server has 'gone away'. With apologies to the list, here's the traceback:<br class=""><br class="">---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">ValueError Traceback (most recent call last)<br class=""><ipython-input-49-3f118016da60> in <module>()<br class="">----> 1 p.annotate_particles((4.0,'kpc'))<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/visualization/plot_container.pyc in newfunc(*args, **kwargs)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>68 rv = f(*args, **kwargs)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>69 args[0]._plot_valid = False<br class="">---> 70 args[0]._setup_plots()<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>71 return rv<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>72 return newfunc<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/visualization/plot_window.pyc in _setup_plots(self)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>860 label.set_fontproperties(fp)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>861<span class=""> </span><br class="">--> 862 self.run_callbacks(f)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>863<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>864 if draw_axes is False:<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/visualization/plot_container.pyc in run_callbacks(self, f)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>313 CallbackMaker = callback_registry[name]<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>314 callback = CallbackMaker(*args[1:], **kwargs)<br class="">--> 315 callback(cbw)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>316 for key in self.frb.keys():<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>317 if key not in keys:<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/visualization/plot_modifications.pyc in __call__(self, plot)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>1053 pt = self.ptype<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>1054 gg = ( ( reg[pt, field_x] >= x0 ) & ( reg[pt, field_x] <= x1 )<br class="">-> 1055 & ( reg[pt, field_y] >= y0 ) & ( reg[pt, field_y] <= y1 ) )<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>1056 if self.minimum_mass is not None:<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>1057 gg &= (reg[pt, "particle_mass"] >= self.minimum_mass)<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/data_objects/data_containers.pyc in __getitem__(self, key)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>238 return self.field_data[f]<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>239 else:<br class="">--> 240 self.get_data(f)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>241 # fi.units is the unit expression string. We depend on the registry<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>242 # hanging off the dataset to define this unit object.<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/data_objects/data_containers.pyc in get_data(self, fields)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>665<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>666 read_particles, gen_particles = self.index._read_particle_fields(<br class="">--> 667 particles, self, self._current_chunk)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>668 for f, v in read_particles.items():<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>669 self.field_data[f] = self.ds.arr(v, input_units = finfos[f].units)<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/geometry/geometry_handler.pyc in _read_particle_fields(self, fields, dobj, chunk)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>232 self._chunk_io(dobj, cache = False),<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>233 selector,<br class="">--> 234 fields_to_read)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>235 return fields_to_return, fields_to_generate<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>236<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/utilities/io_handler.pyc in _read_particle_selection(self, chunks, selector, fields)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>148 # Here, ptype_map means which particles contribute to a given type.<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>149 # And ptf is the actual fields from disk to read.<br class="">--> 150 psize = self._count_particles_chunks(chunks, ptf, selector)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>151 # Now we allocate<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>152 # ptf, remember, is our mapping of what we want to read<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/utilities/io_handler.pyc in _count_particles_chunks(self, chunks, ptf, selector)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>119 def _count_particles_chunks(self, chunks, ptf, selector):<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>120 psize = defaultdict(lambda: 0) # COUNT PTYPES ON DISK<br class="">--> 121 for ptype, (x, y, z) in self._read_particle_coords(chunks, ptf):<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>122 psize[ptype] += selector.count_points(x, y, z, 0.0)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>123 return dict(psize.items())<br class=""><br class="">/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/yt/frontends/flash/io.pyc in _read_particle_coords(self, chunks, ptf)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>72 start = p_ind[<a href="http://g1.id/" target="_blank" class="">g1.id</a><span class=""> </span>- g1._id_offset]<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>73 end = p_ind[<a href="http://g2.id/" target="_blank" class="">g2.id</a><span class=""> </span>- g2._id_offset + 1]<br class="">---> 74 x = np.asarray(p_fields[start:end, px], dtype="=f8")<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>75 y = np.asarray(p_fields[start:end, py], dtype="=f8")<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>76 z = np.asarray(p_fields[start:end, pz], dtype="=f8")<br class=""><br class="">/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/h5py/_hl/dataset.pyc in __getitem__(self, args)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>312<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>313 # Perform the dataspace selection.<br class="">--> 314 selection = sel.select(self.shape, args, dsid=<a href="http://self.id/" target="_blank" class="">self.id</a>)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>315<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>316 if selection.nselect == 0:<br class=""><br class="">/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/h5py/_hl/selections.pyc in select(shape, args, dsid)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>92<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>93 sel = SimpleSelection(shape)<br class="">---> 94 sel[args]<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>95 return sel<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>96<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/h5py/_hl/selections.pyc in __getitem__(self, args)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>259 return self<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>260<span class=""> </span><br class="">--> 261 start, count, step, scalar = _handle_simple(self.shape,args)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>262<span class=""> </span><br class=""> <span class=""> </span>263 self._id.select_hyperslab(start, count, step)<br class=""><br class="">/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/h5py/_hl/selections.pyc in _handle_simple(shape, args)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>510 for arg, length in zip(args, shape):<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>511 if isinstance(arg, slice):<br class="">--> 512 x,y,z = _translate_slice(arg, length)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>513 s = False<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>514 else:<br class=""><br class="">/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/h5py/_hl/selections.pyc in _translate_slice(exp, length)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>551 raise ValueError("Step must be >= 1 (got %d)" % step)<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>552 if stop == start:<br class="">--> 553 raise ValueError("Zero-length selections are not allowed")<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>554 if stop < start:<br class=""> <span class=""> </span>555 raise ValueError("Reverse-order selections are not allowed")<br class=""><br class="">ValueError: Zero-length selections are not allowed<br class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me know if any other info would be useful.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Cheers,<br class=""></div>Jason<br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Nathan Goldbaum<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Nathan Goldbaum<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Jason Galyardt<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jason.galyardt@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jason.galyardt@gmail.com</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class=""></div>I'm sure I've just overlooked some bit of documentation, but I'm having trouble plotting particles generated by FLASH on top of the gas density. I've been able to load a plot file with the associated particle file via<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">ds = yt.load(plotfileName, particle_filename=partfileName)<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div>However, when I try to create a projection and annotate the particles with<br class=""><br class=""></div>p = yt.ProjectionPlot(ds, "y", "density")<br class="">p.annotate_particles(1.0) # ValueError!<br class=""></div><div class=""># p.annotate_particles((4.0, 'kpc')) # ValueError!<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Can you pastebin the full error traceback? Which yt version are you using?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Forgot to mention that you can get precise version information by executing "yt version" at the bash command line.</div><span class=""><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">I get a ValueError from h5py indicating that zero-length selections are not allowed. I have also tried passing the full width of the simulation domain to the annotation function without success. I suspect that this is a user error stemming from differences between the way that Enzo and FLASH store particle data. However, I can't find much in the way of documentation or examples for the FLASH particle data format.<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">Of course, it would also be handy to be able to write my own analysis scripts using both gas and particles, but for now, I'll settle for any help I can get on simple plotting functionality.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Thanks,<br class=""><br class=""></div>Jason Galyardt<br class=""></div>Department of Physics and Astronomy<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">University of Georgia<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div><br class=""></span>_______________________________________________<br class="">yt-users mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:yt-users@lists.spacepope.org" target="_blank" class="">yt-users@lists.spacepope.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-users-spacepope.org" target="_blank" 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