<div dir="ltr">I'm glad everyone is OK with this :)<div><br></div><div>Here's a PR that implements this proposal:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/yt-project/yt/pull/1461">https://github.com/yt-project/yt/pull/1461</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Alex Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alexlindsay239@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexlindsay239@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On Jun 20, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Michael Zingale
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<div dir="ltr">this change sounds good to me. </div>
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Nathan,<br>
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Unexpectedly, I find myself in agreement with you.
I think we should<br>
ditch INST_CONDA=0, now that yt is able to be
installed in a multitude<br>
of ways, and now that the dependency stack is also
much easier to<br>
install.<br>
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This will also lighten the burden of maintenance
that we put on<br>
ourselves when we add optional or explicit
dependencies.<br>
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-Matt<br>
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On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Nathan
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> If anyone followed the e-mail thread on
yt-users between me and Carla<br>
> Bernhardt, they'd see that we had a lot of
difficultly dealing with the<br>
> INST_CONDA=0 option in the install script.<br>
><br>
> This option reverts the install script to
"legacy" mode, installing yt and<br>
> all of yt's dependencies from source rather
than using miniconda and conda<br>
> packages to bootstrap a python environment.<br>
><br>
> The problem is that the packages that get
installed must be manually and<br>
> laboriously updated. In practice this means
packages are basically never<br>
> updated. This also means the script
installs relatively old versions of<br>
> libraries (currently, matplotlib 1.5.1,
numpy 1.11) simply because no one<br>
> has taken the time to go through the list
of libraries installed and update<br>
> them. This means anyone who uses this
option isn't benefiting from upstream<br>
> bugfixes. It also means we risk bitrot.<br>
><br>
> In practice, I don't think I've recently
heard of a situation where<br>
> INST_CONDA=1 failed but INST_CONDA=0 did
not.<br>
><br>
> The other option of course is for someone
to step up and take responsibility<br>
> for updating the INST_CONDA=0 section of
the install script. I'd be happy to<br>
> help out with that if anyone wants to
volunteer.<br>
><br>
> However, without a maintainer, I think we
are doing our users a disservice<br>
> by leaving this option available.<br>
><br>
> If we *do* eliminate this option, we
immediately reap the following<br>
> benefits:<br>
><br>
> * The install script can be trimmed down by
several hundred lines<br>
> * We can simplify the install-script based
install instructions in the docs<br>
> * It becomes easier to test modifications
to the install script because<br>
> there are fewer permutations to test.<br>
><br>
> Please let me know what you think. I'd
especially like to hear from people<br>
> who are fans of INST_CONDA=0 or who
recently used it with no issues.<br>
><br>
> -Nathan<br>
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