<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr">Hi folks,<div><br></div><div>I've put up a comparison image:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__i.imgur.com_Afxdb0G.jpg&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=ZS5W7MnrK-zNqPJxxUdG5VRmpjYPRoV1E8J22kDYEfM&e=">http://i.imgur.com/Afxdb0G.jpg</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Left is Kacper, middle is me, right is Nathan.</div><div><br></div><div>Honestly I think all could go in, but we should pick a default -- whether it's one of these or a different one. Anyone have a strong opinion?</div><div><br></div><div>-Matt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:19 AM, B.W. Keller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kellerbw@mcmaster.ca" target="_blank">kellerbw@mcmaster.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Wow, all of these look great. I think I like Matt's best for painting our bikeshed, but I would be happy with any of them.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Kacper Kowalik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xarthisius.kk@gmail.com" target="_blank">xarthisius.kk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><span>On 01/18/2016 09:45 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I've experimented a bit and come up with this:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__images.hub.yt_u_fido_m_9bbe3cf6-2Dpng_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=ZEoGUswVh95MkNfxz8XQGNAe8ovcv3UlhdRKbgCIBmY&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://images.hub.yt/u/fido/m/9bbe3cf6-png/</a><br>
><br>
> The script:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__paste.yt-2Dproject.org_show_6151_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=Tm2hUQ0_0iU3Sd53jmeh1_VUvnTtqFj_vx-LNkU8TtU&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://paste.yt-project.org/show/6151/</a><br>
><br>
> This was designed with the viscm project, which is awfully cool. What<br>
> do folks think? I think Kacper and Nathan also experimented with<br>
> viscm and have some ideas too, so maybe we should put it up for an<br>
> eventual vote.<br>
<br>
</span></span>This is my experiment:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__images.hub.yt_u_fido_m_f180a901-2Dpng_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=CtA7pSsv_ReOtjhHheObwtMcJ62RG3Gx-cAPTHNcJzA&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://images.hub.yt/u/fido/m/f180a901-png/</a><br>
<br>
Source:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__paste.yt-2Dproject.org_show_6166_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=pQrOu3orWNrALYnFhSsjp1e513KXaypWo_gVc44ekjc&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://paste.yt-project.org/show/6166/</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Kacper<div><div class="h5"><br>
<div><div><br>
><br>
> Also, I would campaign for calling whatever our new colormap turns out<br>
> to be one of these three things, in increasing order of my preference:<br>
><br>
> agar<br>
> kelp<br>
> kanten<br>
><br>
> -Matt<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Matthew Turk <<a href="mailto:matthewturk@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthewturk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Stuart and everyone else,<br>
>><br>
>> This is great info. I appreciate everyone's thoughtful replies.<br>
>><br>
>> Having both a sequential colormap (which would replace algae) and a<br>
>> diverging colormap, would be awesome. The Paraview devs shipped the<br>
>> new matplotlib ones (like Inferno) in 5.0. I think it would be a fun<br>
>> experiment to see if we can come up with something sufficiently<br>
>> "branded" or different. And then if we can't, fall back on something<br>
>> like Inferno?<br>
>><br>
>> -Matt<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Levy, Stuart A <<a href="mailto:salevy@illinois.edu" target="_blank">salevy@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> There was a fair bit of discussion about colormaps - terrible, useful,<br>
>>> beautiful - at IEEE Vis last October. The viridis colormap was a featured<br>
>>> one. So was the traditional rainbow, which lots of info-vis and perceptual<br>
>>> people piled on to criticize.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Among design criteria for a continuous-valued colormap is whether it's<br>
>>> "sequential" (like the typical yt colormap, or viridis) or "diverging".<br>
>>> You'd want a diverging colormap to show signed deviations from a norm -<br>
>>> where the eye should be caught by places where a value is either much less<br>
>>> than, or much more than, something in the middle. Is it worth offering a<br>
>>> typical divergent colormap, as well as a new typical sequential one, in yt?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Note that among the Stefan van der Walt & Nathaniel Smith writeup (<br>
>>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bids.github.io_colormap_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=29XF_VDOkZypW3HwS1S-W0HYYKyfu_MWfwoVDI6-azU&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bids.github.io/colormap/</a> ) on their development of better cmaps, they<br>
>>> use Nathan Goldbaum's galaxy evolution as a test case for six (sequential)<br>
>>> examples! => <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__vorpus.org_-7Enjs_goldbaum-2Dgalaxies-2Dall-2Dcolormaps.mkv&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=3QiKs3W6ZnQl_taZRgwBnsPLHcgUN4Y8DLWyLK5SHFA&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://vorpus.org/~njs/goldbaum-galaxies-all-colormaps.mkv</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> A neat web site with sample colormaps - aimed at mapping discrete values on<br>
>>> geographic maps, so not directly applicable but cool - is this, by Cynthia<br>
>>> Brewer and Mark Harrower at PSU:<br>
>>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__colorbrewer2.org_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=4Uhu6p5uoKPxpM-qNQWxtisdzevRALAyfmjRogfnHWg&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://colorbrewer2.org/</a><br>
>>> It has a library of predesigned cmaps, and lets you sift them by being<br>
>>> colorblind-safe, photocopy safe, etc.<br>
>>> ________________________________<br>
>>> From: yt-dev [<a href="mailto:yt-dev-bounces@lists.spacepope.org" target="_blank">yt-dev-bounces@lists.spacepope.org</a>] on behalf of B.W. Keller<br>
>>> [<a href="mailto:kellerbw@mcmaster.ca" target="_blank">kellerbw@mcmaster.ca</a>]<br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:13<br>
>>> To: <a href="mailto:yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org" target="_blank">yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [yt-dev] Default colormap<br>
>>><br>
>>> There is a really excellent paper on designing color maps called "Color<br>
>>> Sequences for Univariate Maps: Theory, Experiments, and Principles" that you<br>
>>> can get here:<br>
>>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccom.unh.edu_sites_default_files_publications_Ware-5F1988-5FCGA-5FColor-5Fsequences-5Funivariate-5Fmaps.pdf&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=NXmOcVJy0pK6hZgpImPULjnqA_VZZI1G0W6HpZqU2FM&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ccom.unh.edu/sites/default/files/publications/Ware_1988_CGA_Color_sequences_univariate_maps.pdf</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> If we design a new colormap, this would be a good reference along with those<br>
>>> scipy resources. I personally would love to have an accessible, yt-custom<br>
>>> colormap.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Erik Schnetter <<a href="mailto:schnetter@gmail.com" target="_blank">schnetter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think there are several colourmaps that were created when Viridis<br>
>>>> was invented. I personally like Inferno.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -erik<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com" target="_blank">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> I would also be for coming up with our own colormap. That said, I think<br>
>>>>> simply modifying algae won't be enough, since it is too perceptually<br>
>>>>> nonlinear.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:32 AM, John ZuHone <<a href="mailto:jzuhone@gmail.com" target="_blank">jzuhone@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I would go for modifying algae.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Matthew Turk <<a href="mailto:matthewturk@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthewturk@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hi folks,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> For a long time we've used "algae," which was designed by Britton<br>
>>>>>>> about eight years ago, as the default colormap. This has been really<br>
>>>>>>> nice for "branding" yt -- if you see an algae plot, it's probably<br>
>>>>>>> (not<br>
>>>>>>> definitely) made with yt. But it's also not accessible from a<br>
>>>>>>> colorblindness perspective. Stefan van der Walt has been giving some<br>
>>>>>>> really great talks lately about building a better colormap for<br>
>>>>>>> matplotlib (e.g., <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxAoljeRJ3lU&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=miHRWAxwWwnYKQDVWe1kNUg0jodILuCTrFk0Bgt6oIo&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoljeRJ3lU</a> ) which<br>
>>>>>>> culminated in viridis, which is shipping in recent versions of<br>
>>>>>>> matplotlib and will become the default.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> In support of this, he built a tool called viscm which can generate<br>
>>>>>>> reduced versions of colormaps to show what they would be like with<br>
>>>>>>> varying degrees of insensitivity to color. I've generated outputs<br>
>>>>>>> from viscm of three of the custom colormaps we ship with yt:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Algae: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__images.hub.yt_u_fido_m_d275d5e1-2Dpng_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=s0Rheyn-vkq3XUVw20nRctsH1qL2WcHBBveGEzEvLyg&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://images.hub.yt/u/fido/m/d275d5e1-png/</a><br>
>>>>>>> Cubehelix: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__images.hub.yt_u_fido_m_8e698928-2Dpng_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=67yQC2H2788fHSTckuWnBGs5m6s4dX_d0MWAACStgd0&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://images.hub.yt/u/fido/m/8e698928-png/</a> (I believe<br>
>>>>>>> this is now also shipped with MPL)<br>
>>>>>>> Kamae: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__images.hub.yt_u_fido_m_e0e40efa-2Dpng_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=hgcBC3x6dKFoTrmFmMYYbKNfiHZlGLKliIidd1LwmHI&m=9PeUghEl2oASd4oK7a-A9UV3r_r88Im0G56c5UhNfhQ&s=WCdZUJWcMGPuehnRHdHN6vTUmieWjQ6yuBBuCPWAEa8&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://images.hub.yt/u/fido/m/e0e40efa-png/</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I love algae, but it's not the best from an accessibility<br>
>>>>>>> perspective.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I'd like to propose that we use a new default colormap. If we do<br>
>>>>>>> this, I see two options:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> * Retain a "branding" by developing a new one either by using the<br>
>>>>>>> techniques used by matplotlib (or one of the maps they opted not to<br>
>>>>>>> use) or by modifying algae to be more accessible; looking at the<br>
>>>>>>> response functions, I suspect it would be reasonably possible to<br>
>>>>>>> modify it. (Modifying algae is my preference.)<br>
>>>>>>> * Use viridis (which we may then have to ship if we have older<br>
>>>>>>> versions of matplotlib to support)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> -Matt<br>
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