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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ah, great! I guess it could be worth
      checking the other outputs in case, say, the OWLS data are not
      what they seem.<br>
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      (sorry)<br>
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      On 02/12/13 23:52, Matthew Turk wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Ah, I think I see the issue.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Temperature is defined for capital T, and the same
        for Pressure. So pressure isn't being converted because we
        changed the field names. I'll fix this in my PR.</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 2, 2013 5:49 PM, "Sam Geen" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk">samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk</a>>
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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          Downloading now; will take 20 mins or so on my crappy
          internet, if I haven't already gone to bed...<br>
          <br>
          Note also that the unit name (i.e. K) is missing; the same is
          true for pressure. The image for Density looks fine, by
          comparison. So it's possible it's not being converted somehow.<br>
          <br>
          On 02/12/13 23:40, Matthew Turk wrote:<br>
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            Hi Sam,<br>
            <br>
            On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Sam Geen <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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              I noticed that an old version of Ramses I had didn't
              include mu, so I'm not<br>
              sure when that crept in, but it's explicitly stated in the
              current<br>
              amr/units.f90 file. Again, Romain may be able to help
              answer this<br>
              authoritatively.<br>
              <br>
              In any case, I can check the version you upload against my
              snapshots; in my<br>
              latest test the pressure and temperature units didn't
              work* (although the<br>
              images looked fine), so if you happen to fix that then
              great!<br>
              <br>
              * <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://i.imgur.com/mcGyuJD.png" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/mcGyuJD.png</a><br>
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            These units look okay to me.  10^23 K sounds about right for
            a 100 pc<br>
            box of fluid.<br>
            <br>
            (Kidding.)<br>
            <br>
            Can you check the output_00080 dataset here:<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://yt-project.org/data/"
              target="_blank">http://yt-project.org/data/</a> and see if
            it matches to your<br>
            expectations?<br>
            <br>
            -Matt<br>
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              <br>
              On 02/12/13 23:28, Matthew Turk wrote:<br>
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                Hi Sam,<br>
                <br>
                On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Sam Geen <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  Hi Matt,<br>
                  <br>
                  I believe it's absolute metallicity (i.e. 0.02 =
                  fiducial solar, 0.0 =<br>
                  primordial). If you're paranoid, you could check with
                  Romain; I'll open<br>
                  up<br>
                  some outputs in the morning and confirm this.<br>
                  <br>
                  BTW, I didn't get a chance to hunt down the
                  pressure/temperature units<br>
                  problem today, but if you take a look then be aware
                  that temperature in<br>
                  Ramses is returned (in the version I have, anyway) as
                  T/mu, i.e. you need<br>
                  to<br>
                  multiply by the mean gas particle mass to get
                  temperature in Kelvin.<br>
                  Normally for a given hydrogen mass fraction this is
                  just X + 4*Y + (?) Z<br>
                  (I<br>
                  think! it's late here, so worth checking...), but for
                  radiative transfer<br>
                  runs you need to be a bit careful since you also have
                  electrons - we can<br>
                  look at this when the RT module output format is
                  implemented, though.<br>
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                Ah, thank you.  That makes sense, and I'll apply these
                conversions for<br>
                metallicity.<br>
                <br>
                For pressure, currently what we are doing is:<br>
                <br>
                def _Temperature(field, data):<br>
                      rv = data["Pressure"]/data["Density"]<br>
                      rv *= mass_hydrogen_cgs/boltzmann_constant_cgs<br>
                      return rv<br>
                add_field("Temperature", function=_Temperature,
                units=r"\rm{K}")<br>
                <br>
                So it looks like that will need to be updated.  I think
                this was set<br>
                up on-demand from someone, and they compared it against
                their previous<br>
                results, so I'm not sure where the discrepancy comes in.<br>
                <br>
                -Matt<br>
                <br>
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                  Cheers,<br>
                  <br>
                  Sam<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  On 02/12/13 22:02, Matthew Turk wrote:<br>
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                    Hi Sam,<br>
                    <br>
                    What're the metallicity units for RAMSES?  Nathan
                    and I are updating<br>
                    for the yt-3.0 unit refactor and we're trying to get
                    the RAMSES<br>
                    conversion done today.<br>
                    <br>
                    -Matt<br>
                    <br>
                    On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Sam Geen <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk"
                      target="_blank">samgeen@astro.ox.ac.uk</a>><br>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      Hi,<br>
                      <br>
                      I intend to try to fiddle with the RAMSES frontend
                      when I have<br>
                      time/need,<br>
                      and thought it would be good to collate a list of
                      tasks that need to be<br>
                      completed so we have a consensus on what needs to
                      be fixed. Feel free<br>
                      to<br>
                      suggest things or tell me that they're already
                      implemented if I missed<br>
                      them:<br>
                      <br>
                      1) Add support for RT and ATON files, which are
                      now part of the default<br>
                      RAMSES (I assume from the code that the cooling
                      and grav files are<br>
                      already<br>
                      read)<br>
                      2) Via 1), it might be nice to refactor the
                      RAMSESDomainFile class a<br>
                      bit<br>
                      to<br>
                      provide a more generic Ramses file reading
                      routine/class, since the<br>
                      formats<br>
                      of the files are fairly similar and in doing 1) we
                      might get some<br>
                      copy-paste<br>
                      bloat.<br>
                      3) Allow for RAMSES runs that only contain AMR
                      & particles (i.e. pure<br>
                      N-body<br>
                      runs with no hydro)<br>
                      4) Refactor the inputs to fit YT default field
                      names (for MHD, RT and<br>
                      ATON).<br>
                      5) Allow YT to interpret non-cosmological
                      simulations in RAMSES, or if<br>
                      it<br>
                      already does, remove the warning that says this.<br>
                      6) Romain Teyssier suggested allowing users to
                      specify their own<br>
                      default<br>
                      field names for user-modified versions of RAMSES.
                      I don't know if YT<br>
                      caches<br>
                      data that would allow this, but I thought I'd punt
                      the suggestion<br>
                      along.<br>
                      Another option could be to allow users to expose
                      the RAMSES namelist<br>
                      files<br>
                      to YT (i.e. the parameter files for starting up a
                      run) - these contain<br>
                      a<br>
                      lot<br>
                      more information on the physics included, etc. I'd
                      put this on a low<br>
                      priority unless someone thinks of something clever
                      that solves this<br>
                      cleanly.<br>
                      7) It could be worthwhile to implement
                      read-on-demand if it's not<br>
                      already<br>
                      -<br>
                      sometimes the users won't query the
                      ATON/RT/hydro/particle file or<br>
                      certain<br>
                      fluid fields in each file and so we wouldn't need
                      to read those files<br>
                      in<br>
                      that case. This could be folded into 2).<br>
                      <br>
                      Cheers,<br>
                      <br>
                      Sam<br>
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