<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>Speaking as someone who relatively recently started using yt, and uses it to analyse data from codes with a lot fewer users than enzo+yt (as far as I can tell anyway), something like SO would be awesome. Searching the mailing list has very rarely been useful to me. This is almost certainly a result of my using codes for which support in yt has changed dramatically over the last year or so; mailing list threads are often out of date to the point of uselessness. An updatable system would be a lot friendlier. </div>
<div><br></div><div>best,</div><div>Nick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Turk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthewturk@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthewturk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Elizabeth,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Elizabeth Tasker<br>
<<a href="mailto:tasker@astro1.sci.hokudai.ac.jp">tasker@astro1.sci.hokudai.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Nathan and Matt,<br>
><br>
> I've never used SO (or indeed heard of it until I saw the twitter thread)<br>
> and I'm very open to being convinced of its merits.<br>
><br>
> However, I'm also a bit concerned about fragmenting our Q&A.<br>
<br>
</div>(Me too!)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> For example, if<br>
> I have a problem with yt, one of the first things I do is hit the "search<br>
> the mailing list" box on the doc page.<br>
><br>
> e.g.<br>
> <a href="http://www.google.com/cse?cx=010428198273461986377%3Axyfd9ztykqm&ie=UTF-8&q=elizabeth+has+a+problem&sa=Search&siteurl=yt-project.org%2Fdocs%2F2.5%2F&ref=yt-project.org%2Fcommunity.html&ss=5151j1127787j37#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=elizabeth%20has%20a%20problem&gsc.page=1" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/cse?cx=010428198273461986377%3Axyfd9ztykqm&ie=UTF-8&q=elizabeth+has+a+problem&sa=Search&siteurl=yt-project.org%2Fdocs%2F2.5%2F&ref=yt-project.org%2Fcommunity.html&ss=5151j1127787j37#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=elizabeth%20has%20a%20problem&gsc.page=1</a><br>
><br>
> Now that is pretty simple. What is SO offering that beats that?<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>The answers can be updated over time -- which can't happen with a<br>
linear system like the mailing list. So you might turn up an old<br>
answer on the mailing list, but on SO it would then be updated over<br>
time to match the current SOP.<br>
<br>
-Matt<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> Elizabeth<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Matthew Turk <<a href="mailto:matthewturk@gmail.com">matthewturk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Nathan,<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <<a href="mailto:nathan12343@gmail.com">nathan12343@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I recently subscribed to the [yt] tag on StackExchange. Now, whenever a<br>
> question is asked using this tag on any StackExchange site, I will get an<br>
> e-mail about it, just like if a question is asked on the users or dev list.<br>
> Currently (as far as I can tell) zero questions have been asked using this<br>
> tag...<br>
><br>
> If there are a few others who are interested in subscribing to the tag, I<br>
> think it might be worthwhile to add StackOverflow to the website and docs<br>
> where we describe how to get help and also announce on the user’s list that<br>
> StackOverflow is an alternate place to ask questions.<br>
><br>
> While this might split the community somewhat - not everyone will be<br>
> subscribed to StackOverflow and thus might miss useful info - I think moving<br>
> some helpful suggestions to StackOverflow will massively improve<br>
> googleability of common yt issues, allowing us to avoid answering the same<br>
> questions over and over again.<br>
><br>
> It might also be worthwhile to ask and answer some common yt questions. Off<br>
> the top of my head, I think we could at least answer how to load various<br>
> types of datasets into yt.<br>
><br>
><br>
> In principle, I'm okay with this. But I have a few concerns --<br>
><br>
> 1) I don't think the tag "yt" can be created unless someone with high<br>
> reputation does so. (<br>
> <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/create-tags" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/create-tags</a> )<br>
> 2) We have well-defined usage metrics that we can quantify based on<br>
> mailing list activity, so this may fragment that.<br>
> 3) Many of the existing contributors and users don't want another inbox.<br>
><br>
> *However*. SO is really quite good for evolving questions and for an<br>
> updateable reference. I do really like that aspect. But I think we<br>
> may find ourselves getting a bit fragmented -- in fact, what I see as<br>
> being a possible outcome is that if yt does end up growing into an<br>
> interdisciplinary space, we'd see people from non-Astro disciplines<br>
> using it, but retaining our original core audience here. All your<br>
> points really are good ones.<br>
><br>
> I don't know. Could be awesome. And, I'd like to see us embrace more<br>
> modern and useful methods of communication and outreach. So ... I<br>
> guess the experiment could be a good one!<br>
><br>
> -Matt<br>
><br>
><br>
> -Nathan<br>
><br>
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