[yt-dev] Ways to make the yt community more welcoming

[Matthew Turk]

Sorry to *once again* reply to my own email -- to be clear about this,
I was referring to the notion of "skipping steps" in the blog post as
something we're guilty of, as I noted we have patchy coverage of the
different levels.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, I want to highlight this bit from the end, which it seems we're guilty of:
>
> "The thing that frustrates me the most is when communities skip steps.
> “Hey, we have a code of conduct and child care, but known harassers
> are allowed at our conferences!” “We want to participate in a
> diversity program, but we don’t have any mentors and we have no idea
> what the contributor would work on long term!” So, get your basic
> cultural changes done first, please."
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nathan,
>>
>> Thank you for sending this out.  I've looked it over, and I think we
>> might have bits and pieces of the higher levels, but it seems to me
>> that we're reliably somewhere between level 0 and 1.  We are missing a
>> few level 1 items, like how to contribute non-code things, up to date
>> step-by-step tutorials, and feature cut-off dates, but I think we have
>> the others.  And we're doing a bit better on some level 2
>> contributions, like self-contained projects, but not so much on things
>> like newbie todo lists, or available mentors.  (We have mentors, but I
>> think we might not be quite at the level that is meant in level 2.)
>> But I do think we're doign a good job of thanking people, providing
>> informal communications, and the code of conduct.  When we get down to
>> level 3 or 4, we start to get a bit more patchy -- I like to think we
>> have a good track record of admitting mistakes, but we could
>> definitely do better encouraging diverse voices and increasing plans
>> for succession.  We don't have a community manager.  Level 5 contains
>> things I want to see us do much better about -- providing child care,
>> 30%+ new voices, and participation in community diversity programs
>> especially.
>>
>> This is a really, really great blog post.  I'd like to see us start
>> trying to take action on some of these things.  What do you think our
>> strategy could be?
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sarah Sharp, formerly the maintainer of the linux USB stack, recently
>>> stepped down from linux kernel development due to the toxic nature of that
>>> community.
>>>
>>> While we're miles ahead of the tenor on the linux kernel mailing list, there
>>> are always ways we can improve the community.
>>>
>>> Just today Sarah published this post on her blog, which has lots of concrete
>>> suggestions for making communities more welcoming.
>>>
>>> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/06/what-makes-a-good-community/
>>>
>>> Are there things on these lists that the yt community could be doing that we
>>> aren't right now? There are lots of project ideas here, some much bigger
>>> than others, so I'm just throwing it out here in the hopes that will pique
>>> the interest of a few of you to implement some of these suggestions.
>>>
>>> -Nathan
>>>
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