[yt-dev] [continued] RAMSES units bug in yt-3.0

Matthew Turk matthewturk at gmail.com
Wed May 21 09:47:29 PDT 2014


Hi Sam,

What's teh changeset hash? All of my tests have been against the "tip"
of the yt-3.0 branch.  Note that the repository yt_analysis/yt-3.0 is
no longer in use.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I've downloaded the latest version of yt-3.0, and am finding total mass
> values of 0.002 g for a simulation of a cloud of mass 10^5 Msun. I'm also
> finding that the temperature values are way too high (a max of 10^9K or so,
> when the max should be more like 10^5K). Finally, the pressure units are
> listed as code_mass/(code_length*code_time**2) rather than cgs (I have no
> idea if this represents a problem, but it could be related to the
> temperature bug).
>
> Out of interest, is there a recommended version of yt-3.0 to use before the
> units were added to compare against? (I believe the old units system gave
> the correct values for RAMSES data).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
>
> On 14/05/14 16:38, Sam Geen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion - I've cross-checked against another dataset and
>> the cell mass should be more like 2.5e8Msun, as you find; I thought the
>> density values seemed very low (as well as the mass fraction of gas to dark
>> matter) and hence added a factor of boxlen**3, which seemed more reasonable,
>> but checking against another run it seems that the other run just has very
>> low densities, and so the density unit doesn't need converting by boxlen**3
>> after all, so the only thing to be careful of is to make sure that
>> cell-based spatial units are multiplied by boxlen while particle-based
>> spatial units aren't; this way both the lengths and masses should be
>> consistent. The particle mass should still be 1.8e10Msun.
>>
>> Thanks for your work on this!
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On 14/05/14 14:22, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've got Sam's dataset here.  As a quick note, with current yt-3.0
>>> tip, all results are correct for cosmology.
>>>
>>> With the outstanding pull request, here are the results:
>>>
>>> Cell Mass: 2.474e+08 Msun (5.300e+13 desired, 4.669e-06 ratio)
>>> Part Mass: 3.865e+15 Msun (1.800e+10 desired, 2.147e+05 ratio)
>>>
>>> Without it:
>>>
>>> Cell Mass: 1.146e+03 Msun (5.300e+13 desired, 2.161e-11 ratio)
>>> Part Mass: 1.789e+10 Msun (1.800e+10 desired, 9.941e-01 ratio)
>>>
>>> So the particle mass is correct in current yt-3.0 tip, and the cell
>>> mass isn't right in either the tip or the pull request.  Now, if I use
>>> yt-3.0 tip and compare cell_mass*boxlen**6 against the known, I get
>>> the right answer.
>>>
>>> To solve this asymmetry between the particles and the cell density,
>>> I've added a "code_density" unit and updated the pull request. I now
>>> get correct results for non-cosmo and cosmo runs.  This is in
>>> changeset 8847f04588b1:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/yt/pull-request/895/fixing-ramses-density-and-mass-units
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to hunt down and upload a sample dataset shortly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/05/2014 14:52, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, very good, thanks for the link to that old PR! I was worried I was
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> crazy... in any case, whichever is the easiest way to make the
>>>>>> position/length units consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>> I change the particle positions in the ingestion phase, so at no point
>>>>> should they appear incorrect.  I'd really like to figure out the
>>>>> boxlen != 1.0 ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, I took a quick look at reading the grav_ files recently,
>>>>>> although the output seems kind of strange, so I haven't issued a PR
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>> until I understand what it's doing (plus I still don't 100% understand
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> units). I suspect it might be reading in the wrong order or something.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> also complicates the code, so it might be worth refactoring a bit to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> universal "AMR-like" data_structures/io interface for the files called
>>>>>> hydro_, grav_, rt_, etc, rather than what I did which was to scatter a
>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>> of conditionals into the existing functions.
>>>>>
>>>>> That could be -- I think there was some discussion that they might
>>>>> also include ghost zones?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also run some checks on cosmology runs.  Here's what I've found.
>>>>> With no changes to the current tip of yt-3.0, I have run this script:
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ds = yt.load("output_00010/info_00010.txt")
>>>>> dd = ds.all_data()
>>>>>
>>>>> # Let's find the total mass
>>>>> pmass = dd["particle_mass"].sum().in_units("Msun")
>>>>> cmass = dd["cell_mass"].sum().in_units("Msun")
>>>>> rho = ds.cosmology.critical_density(ds.current_redshift)
>>>>> crit_mass = (rho * dd["cell_volume"]).sum().in_units("Msun")
>>>>> print pmass
>>>>> print cmass
>>>>> print pmass / (pmass + cmass)
>>>>> print ((pmass + cmass) / crit_mass)
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> The results are good.  I get roughly 0.84 for pmass / (pmass + cmass),
>>>>> and I get 0.998 for the final check, which seems within the parameters
>>>>> of the simulation.  So the cosmological units should be correct, and
>>>>> more to the point, they match up with what I'm expecting having read
>>>>> over the code carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it looks to me like there is in fact a boxlen missing, but that as
>>>>> it stands, the particle and density units are correct for boxlen =
>>>>> 1.0.  Nick's message is worrisome because the factor isn't exactly 1e3
>>>>> between his max density.  I have a boxlen != 1.0 dataset, but I have
>>>>> no reference values to compare it again.  Any chance there's one with
>>>>> *reference* results for total mass in particles, total mass in gas,
>>>>> etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/05/2014 14:21, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, here's an old pull request I found:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://hg.yt-project.org/yt-3.0/pull-request/62/adding-boxlen-to-ramses-units-for-mass-and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and then there's the units.f90 from RAMSES itself:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/rteyssie/ramses/src/81ab29b8a405e7ccf6bf30fd67582b4edacddd6e/trunk/ramses/amr/units.f90?at=master
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm going to take care of this, update the PR, and ping you both.
>>>>>>> (And maybe we should move to yt-dev? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huh, that difference in the max density is very strange. I can't
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> you'd have that difference; it's not an obvious multiple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, I'm looking at the code and it's possible that the
>>>>>>>> particle
>>>>>>>> positions are scaled from 0 to boxlen and the grid positions from 0
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> 1,
>>>>>>>> though I'd need to open up the raw values in a RAMSES file to
>>>>>>>> confirm
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>> If this is true, I suppose one "fix" could be to hard-multiply the
>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>> sizes by pf["boxlen"] when you load them so that the length units
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> consistent for all data. I *think* that the older version of yt-3.0
>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>> correct answers, though, so that should at least be a way to
>>>>>>>> calibrate
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> new version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/05/2014 14:01, nick moeckel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a chance to test out an older and a newer version of yt-3 on a
>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> dataset that has boxlen=10. This seems to confirm a boxlen**3 factor
>>>>>>>> somewhere, although there's a further difference in the max density.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> more recent version (hg id -i gives f4838a2165c0):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> after dd = ds.all_data():
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In [11]: dd.quantities.extrema('density')
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Out[11]: (2.00739832795e-28 g/cm**3, 4.54771338163e-24 g/cm**3)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> older version (hg id -i gives 3e8b733c9ee9):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> after dd = ds.h.all_data():
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In [10]: dd.quantities.extrema('Density')
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Out[10]: [(2.0073983279492632e-25, 4.0079147772594363e-21)]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, that looks like it should work. I'll try to run it on some
>>>>>>>>> particle
>>>>>>>>> data when I get the time, but like I said I'm 99% sure the mass
>>>>>>>>> units
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> be identical for both grid hydro and particle data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/14 17:46, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I've looked over a bit, and I think the correct change would
>>>>>>>>>> be:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mass_unit = rho_u * length_unit**3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That should include the correct length unit, and I think will
>>>>>>>>>> reduce
>>>>>>>>>> "density" back to the "unit_d" that's in the parameter file.  If
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> looks okay to you, I will push it, but I really do want to make
>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> the particle masses are correct.  Can Nick or Romain provide a bit
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> guidance here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Sam Geen <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, interesting. In theory RAMSES should have identical units for
>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>> particles and gas. I can hunt down a run with particles to test
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/14 17:22, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On reflection, I think this might be related to getting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> *particle*
>>>>>>>>>>>> masses correct.  I will take a look at it as soon as I can.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Sam Geen
>>>>>>>>>>>> <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, that looks like it should be "mass_unit = rho_u *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> length_unit**3"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 492. You're right that it mentions the boxlength issue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/14 16:50, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, sounds good.  Looking at how code unit attributes are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/yt/src/a14a150c7c81850df81346162bdaff271e77eb50/yt/frontends/ramses/data_structures.py?at=yt-3.0#cl-482
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggests to me that length_unit takes into account boxlen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mass_unit does not.  The comments have some indication why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Sam Geen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep; both this and dd["density"] give cgs values that are too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roughly a factor of boxlen**3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing I need to try is to make sure I'm using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of YT; I've been playing around with the Ramses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frontend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible my version is somehow out of sync. Will let you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/14 16:42, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you verify the units are in fact incorrect in *cgs*?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this would work:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ds = load(...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dd = ds.all_data()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> print dd.quantities.total_quantitiy("cell_mass").in_cgs()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your second message makes me wonder if there's just a slipup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the units are returned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sam Geen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <samgeen at astro.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the spam; a second bug I've seen is that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> density
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unit labels on figures appears to be broken; it seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latex-mangled code names for the units rather than the cgs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> units; see attached example. Temperature is fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/14 16:28, Sam Geen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to say that in the latest version of yt-3.0 (i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fields were renamed or re-implemented), I've found a bug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation of "cell_mass", which is giving results
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my runs; I believe the issue is that it's missing a factor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pf["boxlen"]**3 (which is of course only a problem if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boxlen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous "CellMass_Msun" worked fine. If I get time I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue a pull request, but otherwise I'm just flagging this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else runs into problems; you can just manually multiply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pf["boxlen"]**3 until it's fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam
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