[yt-dev] License switch: remove author tags

Nathan Goldbaum nathan12343 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 10 13:49:39 PDT 2013


I believe you retain your copyright over your changes regardless of the
author tags.  IANAL so if someone knows better please correct me.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM, j s oishi <jsoishi at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 on removing author tags
>
> What do we do about the copyright? I mean, can we assign copyright to "the
> yt collaboration" if the yt collaboration doesn't exist in a legal sense?
>
> j
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Anthony Scopatz <scopatz at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey Nathan,
>>
>> I think that this is generally good move.  Though I would encourage an
>> authors page on the website which lists everyone who has contributed.
>>
>> Be Well
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Matt,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I am +1 on removing the author tags.  That being said, I consciously
>>> >> decided *not* to, for basically two reasons which are somewhat
>>> >> related.  The first is that I think removing the author tags will
>>> >> disproportionately impact individuals who perhaps have contributed
>>> >> specific files or analysis modules but have not contributed a large
>>> >> quantity of code to the overall base of yt.  The second reason is
>>> >> really my main one: I don't want to be as strongly associated with yt
>>> >> as I currently am.  Not because I don't have pride in it (I do), but
>>> >> because I don't want people who aren't deep in the code development to
>>> >> believe that I'm the only person contributing, and I do not think that
>>> >> does favors for *anyone*.  (I still receive many emails off-list,
>>> >> people say things to me that I have to correct about what yt is, etc
>>> >> etc.)  It creates an impression of consolidation of responsibility, as
>>> >> well as undermines the credit that others receive for their
>>> >> contributions.  Having names (that aren't mine) on source files
>>> >> reduces the apparent consolidation.  I was leery of making such a
>>> >> change, because removing names felt really wrong to me to do on my
>>> >> own.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I'd argue that the yt = matt turk misconception is made worse by the
>>> author
>>> > tags, since your name is on almost every file.
>>>
>>> Then let's get rid of them.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> So, I'm fine with removing them if everyone else is too.  But I'd also
>>> >> like to trade this for having some type of mechanism for public
>>> >> recognition of efforts.  (In addition to another paper, which is
>>> >> probably still a bit off.)  Perhaps something like a core team, or
>>> >> list of contributors, on the website?  Something that can be pointed
>>> >> to, put on a CV, anything.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Very much agreed.  I'd follow what the IPython project does, a list of
>>> core
>>> > contributors on the website and list of *all* contributors for each
>>> release:
>>> >
>>> > http://ipython.org/ipython-doc/stable/about/license_and_copyright.html
>>> > http://ipython.org/ipython-doc/stable/whatsnew/github-stats-1.0.html
>>>
>>> I like this a lot.
>>>
>>> I've mentioned in IRC a few times that I'd like to re-do the homepage.
>>>  If anyone wants to work on that, I'd be totally game.  I think having
>>> something based on bootstrap with the "slate" theme might be nice; I
>>> started sketching out something the other day.  One option would be to
>>> move the *entire* homepage to Sphinx and just have a nice template for
>>> the front page, similar to what IPython and others do.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Nathan
>>> >
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