[yt-dev] Website redesign feedback

Cameron Hummels chummels at gmail.com
Sat Sep 21 09:37:12 PDT 2013


You are right--I didn't see that.  I thought it was just a typo.  I'll
update things as necessary.  Thanks, Matt.


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Cameron Hummels <chummels at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > All of the links to the docs on the page link to yt-project.org/docinstead
> > of yt-project.org/docs.  I forked and cloned and started making the
> > necessary changes, but it seems like recently the doc hierarchy structure
> > has changed slightly on the yt-project.org site.  Where once the latest
> > stable version of the docs was simply: yt-project.org/docs/ , it is now
> at
> > yt-project.org/docs/2.5 (along with 2.4, 2.3, dev, etc).
>
> /doc/ has been a symlink to the latest version for a couple years; one
> part of this is to avoid having to update links everywhere, although
> when linking to many specific subpages it's usually better to link to
> the version.  /docs/XX has the builds for each one.
>
> >
> > I like this new organization better, as it makes old docs accessible,
> but it
> > leaves us in a slight bind.  Rather than tie ourselves into hard links to
> > pages from that version on the website (like linking the 2.5 install
> page,
> > or the 2.5 help page, or whatever), which will each need to be changed at
> > every new stable release, would it be possible to just have a symbolic
> link
> > in the yt-project.org/docs directory called latest_stable that points
> to the
> > latest stable version directory?  That way, all of the hard links on the
> > webpage can just point to that link and won't need to be changed at every
> > new release.
>
> I think that's what /doc/ is ...
>
> >
> > If that is done, I can go ahead and make all of the relevant doc link
> > changes in the website.
> >
> > Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Cameron Hummels <chummels at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I realize that, I just figured it might be nice to choose one upload
> site
> >> and stick with it so that all of the movies were in a single place.  It
> >> seemed to me that vimeo had a cleaner interface, and there are already
> lots
> >> of yt-themed videos uploaded, but i'm open to whatever.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For what it's worth, the ytanalysis user on YouTube (which currently
> >>> has the world's ugliest page) can curate playlists, which also can
> >>> embed.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Cameron Hummels <chummels at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > +1 on vimeo embeds.  It would also be good if people submitted the
> >>> > vimeo
> >>> > embeds to the yt group on vimeo.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Britton Smith <
> brittonsmith at gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> That sounds cool to me.  I think vimeo or youtube embeds would be
> >>> >> enough.
> >>> >> Does anyone have any objections to having movies in the gallery?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Nathan Goldbaum
> >>> >> <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Youtube or vimeo embeds would be straightforward.  Embedding raw
> >>> >>> videos
> >>> >>> using a video tag would also work but there might be codec/browser
> >>> >>> compatibility issues.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Friday, September 20, 2013, Britton Smith wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I just want to respond to Cameron's question about the gallery.  I
> >>> >>>> don't
> >>> >>>> think it should have to be in a published paper, but I would like
> it
> >>> >>>> to
> >>> >>>> highlight as much of yt's analysis functionality as possible.
>  There
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> often the temptation too fill it with a bunch of gorgeous renders,
> >>> >>>> which are
> >>> >>>> really impressive, but don't really give anyone the impression
> that
> >>> >>>> yt is
> >>> >>>> used for quantitative analysis.  The only real bar I was hoping
> for
> >>> >>>> submissions is that they be something that was used in some sort
> of
> >>> >>>> professional context.  This could be a paper, but also a talk,
> press
> >>> >>>> release, outreach material, or anything that was actual used for a
> >>> >>>> purpose
> >>> >>>> other than just making something that's pretty.  In that sense,
> the
> >>> >>>> gallery
> >>> >>>> is basically a place to show off the niche that yt is serving in
> the
> >>> >>>> real
> >>> >>>> world.  Maybe this could even include embedded movies.  Would that
> >>> >>>> be
> >>> >>>> possible?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Everyone, please contribute!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Britton
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Turk
> >>> >>>> <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I've updated based on, I think, all of the suggestions (except the
> >>> >>>> facebook button, which somebody else needs to get the code for and
> >>> >>>> send me) and updated both the deployment and the PR.  Nathan fixed
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> images on the carousel, and I can't take credit for that.  :)
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Any other feedback?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> -Matt
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Cameron Hummels
> >>> >>>> <chummels at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> > Oh, and the "yt-project" link in the upper left of the header
> does
> >>> >>>> > not
> >>> >>>> > link
> >>> >>>> > to anything.  it might be good to have that link to Home.  In
> >>> >>>> > fact,
> >>> >>>> > you
> >>> >>>> > might be able to do away with the Home link if you were to do
> >>> >>>> > this.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Cameron Hummels
> >>> >>>> > <chummels at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> I think it would be useful to have a link to both the stable
> docs
> >>> >>>> >> as
> >>> >>>> >> well
> >>> >>>> >> as the dev docs, if that's an option.  Even with the increased
> >>> >>>> >> frequency of
> >>> >>>> >> releases, there is still some lag time between dev docs getting
> >>> >>>> >> pulled into
> >>> >>>> >> the stable.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> Under the community page, the last link on the Sharing Scripts
> >>> >>>> >> header
> >>> >>>> >> has
> >>> >>>> >> a typo: pastebine.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> Under the development page, there is a word missing in the
> second
> >>> >>>> >> sentence: "...the development branch, the and even this
> website."
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> I think the gallery is a great idea--now we just have to
> populate
> >>> >>>> >> it.
> >>> >>>> >> Is
> >>> >>>> >> the idea to show off published work?  Does it have to be
> >>> >>>> >> published?
> >>> >>>> >> Also, I
> >>> >>>> >> think we should have people submit both a thumbprint (400x400
> as
> >>> >>>> >> is
> >>> >>>> >> done) as
> >>> >>>> >> well as a full-res image which is linked through the
> thumbprint.
> >>> >>>> >> Or
> >>> >>>> >> perhaps
> >>> >>>> >> it's enough that the paper is linked?
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> So we'll also have another gallery in the docs with images
> shown
> >>> >>>> >> as
> >>> >>>> >> well
> >>> >>>> >> as the cookbook recipes which created them (a la matplotlib)?
>  I
> >>> >>>> >> think that
> >>> >>>> >> would be useful.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> Overall, I think the page looks good.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Geoffrey So <gsiisg at gmail.com
> >
> >>> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> "Ah, I agree about the doc link; not sure about the other two.
> >>> >>>> >>> What
> >>> >>>> >>> about
> >>> >>>> >>> switching blog to being under Quick Links and replacing it
> with
> >>> >>>> >>> a
> >>> >>>> >>> link to
> >>> >>>> >>> the latest stable docs? I don't think a search box will quite
> >>> >>>> >>> work
> >>> >>>> >>> on the
> >>> >>>> >>> toolbar."
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> - Doc would be my first choice, too.  Search is within the doc
> >>> >>>> >>> so it
> >>> >>>> >>> would be just one step away, and usually I wouldn't know what
> to
> >>> >>>> >>> search for
> >>> >>>> >>> until after I looked at the Docs, so not having search at the
> >>> >>>> >>> beginning is
> >>> >>>> >>> fine.
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> "Where should the colors be changed? I do want to brighten the
> >>> >>>> >>> text
> >>> >>>> >>> a
> >>> >>>> >>> bit, but can you suggest other places?"
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> - I just thought the color template of the Docs looks pretty
> >>> >>>> >>> nice,
> >>> >>>> >>> kind
> >>> >>>> >>> of similar to python/numpy etc, but I also understand the need
> >>> >>>> >>> for
> >>> >>>> >>> the black
> >>> >>>> >>> background since we're doing astro, but some addition of
> bright
> >>> >>>> >>> colors would
> >>> >>>> >>> help "lighten" the mood (pun intended), so maybe use a
> brighter
> >>> >>>> >>> shade of
> >>> >>>> >>> grey for the text, and/or color coded section label.  But I
> also
> >>> >>>> >>> noticed my
> >>> >>>> >>> laptop brightness wasn't turned all the way up, so at max
> >>> >>>> >>> brightness
> >>> >>>> >>> it is
> >>> >>>> >>> not as gloomy as I thought before.
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> From
> >>> >>>> >>> G.S.
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Matthew Turk
> >>> >>>> >>> <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Geoffrey,
> >>> >>>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2013 9:06 PM, "Geoffrey So" <gsiisg at gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >>>> > These are just personal preference:
> >>> >>>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >>>> > I usually use the yt website to
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
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> >>> > Cameron Hummels
> >>> > Postdoctoral Researcher
> >>> > Steward Observatory
> >>> > University of Arizona
> >>> > http://chummels.org
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> >> Cameron Hummels
> >> Postdoctoral Researcher
> >> Steward Observatory
> >> University of Arizona
> >> http://chummels.org
> >
> >
> >
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> > University of Arizona
> > http://chummels.org
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-- 
Cameron Hummels
Postdoctoral Researcher
Steward Observatory
University of Arizona
http://chummels.org
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