[yt-dev] Website redesign feedback

Cameron Hummels chummels at gmail.com
Thu Sep 19 18:51:12 PDT 2013


Oh, and the "yt-project" link in the upper left of the header does not link
to anything.  it might be good to have that link to Home.  In fact, you
might be able to do away with the Home link if you were to do this.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Cameron Hummels <chummels at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it would be useful to have a link to both the stable docs as well
> as the dev docs, if that's an option.  Even with the increased frequency of
> releases, there is still some lag time between dev docs getting pulled into
> the stable.
>
> Under the community page, the last link on the Sharing Scripts header has
> a typo: pastebine.
>
> Under the development page, there is a word missing in the second
> sentence: "...the development branch, the and even this website."
>
> I think the gallery is a great idea--now we just have to populate it.  Is
> the idea to show off published work?  Does it have to be published?  Also,
> I think we should have people submit both a thumbprint (400x400 as is done)
> as well as a full-res image which is linked through the thumbprint.  Or
> perhaps it's enough that the paper is linked?
>
> So we'll also have another gallery in the docs with images shown as well
> as the cookbook recipes which created them (a la matplotlib)?  I think that
> would be useful.
>
> Overall, I think the page looks good.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Geoffrey So <gsiisg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ah, I agree about the doc link; not sure about the other two. What
>> about switching blog to being under Quick Links and replacing it with a
>> link to the latest stable docs? I don't think a search box will quite work
>> on the toolbar."
>>
>> - Doc would be my first choice, too.  Search is within the doc so it
>> would be just one step away, and usually I wouldn't know what to search for
>> until after I looked at the Docs, so not having search at the beginning is
>> fine.
>>
>> "Where should the colors be changed? I do want to brighten the text a
>> bit, but can you suggest other places?"
>>
>> - I just thought the color template of the Docs looks pretty nice, kind
>> of similar to python/numpy etc, but I also understand the need for the
>> black background since we're doing astro, but some addition of bright
>> colors would help "lighten" the mood (pun intended), so maybe use a
>> brighter shade of grey for the text, and/or color coded section label.  But
>> I also noticed my laptop brightness wasn't turned all the way up, so at max
>> brightness it is not as gloomy as I thought before.
>>
>> From
>> G.S.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geoffrey,
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2013 9:06 PM, "Geoffrey So" <gsiisg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > These are just personal preference:
>>> >
>>> > I usually use the yt website to look things up when I don't know or
>>> forgot something, so I would prefer to have one of the following on the
>>> tabs on the front page in descending preference.
>>> >
>>> > 1) documentation
>>> > 2) search function
>>> > 3) quick start guide
>>> >
>>> > This would help me at least to find information I want about yt faster
>>> and make the site more useful.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Ah, I agree about the doc link; not sure about the other two. What about
>>> switching blog to being under Quick Links and replacing it with a link to
>>> the latest stable docs? I don't think a search box will quite work on the
>>> toolbar.
>>>
>>> > I think it's great to have a link at the very top,
>>> enabling/encouraging people to become developers.  The site looks fresh
>>> from some of the new images on the gallery, but I'd like to see more more
>>> bright colors to contrast the black background
>>> >
>>>
>>> Where should the colors be changed? I do want to brighten the text a
>>> bit, but can you suggest other places?
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> > From
>>> > G.S.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> The last week or so, I've been working on a redesign of the website.
>>> >> I've gotten some really good feedback from Nathan, Britton and a few
>>> >> others, and I think it's ready to be opened up for more general
>>> >> comments.
>>> >>
>>> >> The redesign pull request is here:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/website/pull-request/11/draft-redesign-using-twitter-bootstrap/diff
>>> >>
>>> >> and the redesign itself can be viewed here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://yt-project.org/index2.html
>>> >>
>>> >> There were a couple goals here:
>>> >>
>>> >>  * Make information much easier to get at
>>> >>  * Reduce the text and increase the size of the text on the front page
>>> >>  * Make the website *way* easier for people to edit
>>> >>  * Make the website *way* less javascript heavy
>>> >>  * Indicate much more strongly that we're part of the scientific
>>> >> Python ecosystem
>>> >>  * Emphasize that yt is analysis-focused with visualization built on
>>> >> that, rather than the other way around
>>> >>
>>> >> There are a few visual glitches still (the headings underline when you
>>> >> mouse over them, and I'm trying to make the text lighter) but I think
>>> >> it's ready for feedback.  I'd appreciate any comments, either here or
>>> >> on the pull request.  And, if we decide this is *not* the direction to
>>> >> go, that's fine too!
>>> >>
>>> >> Britton and I have gone back and forth on how to fix up the gallery
>>> >> and integrate the hub and the blog more deeply.  That's a much longer
>>> >> project, but we see the three all coming together nicely in the
>>> >> future.  As it stands, the Gallery will likely include a few images
>>> >> linked to scientific papers, link to a few things on the hub
>>> >> (notebooks, projects, etc), and is currently handled via version
>>> >> control.
>>> >>
>>> >> Britton's working on expanding it, but if you can read this, you
>>> >> should also add some stuff to it!  Ultimately what I think would work
>>> >> best would be to solicit contributions directly, solicit contributions
>>> >> to the hub, and then flag some things for display in the gallery.  It
>>> >> would be nice to include basically all types of contributions here --
>>> >> notebooks, scripts, figures, papers -- and I'm coming to really think
>>> >> the gallery is essential.
>>> >>
>>> >> Incidentally, this week as Anthony and I have been working on getting
>>> >> support for PyNE interoperability with yt, I've had occasion to view
>>> >> their docs and found them to be really nice.  The gallery system they
>>> >> have is quite nice and very similar to where we're going with the yt
>>> >> docs and the cookbook, but just a *little* bit further than we've
>>> >> gone:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://pynesim.org/
>>> >> http://pynesim.org/gallery/index.html
>>> >>
>>> >> If we decide this website is the way to go, I'll spend some time
>>> >> trying to make our docs play look a bit nicer with it, although likely
>>> >> not with black background.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for any feedback,
>>> >>
>>> >> Matt
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> Cameron Hummels
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Steward Observatory
> University of Arizona
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Cameron Hummels
Postdoctoral Researcher
Steward Observatory
University of Arizona
http://chummels.org
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