[yt-dev] Asking questions on StackOverflow

Mon Nov 18 11:53:40 PST 2013

Ah, but I see that if we ask someone to add the tag as a comment in the
question, then a moderator will add it if they think it's appropriate.

http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/121339/request-for-new-tag-bold-for-delphi

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343 at gmail.com>wrote:

> It looks like we need someone with high (> 1500 reputation) to create the
> new [yt] tag on StackOverflow.
>
> I'll try asking and then immediately answer a few yt questions next
> weekend and just tag it with [python], [visualization], and
> [scientific-computing].
>
> -Nathan
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Britton Smith <brittonsmith at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This all sounds fine to me.  I'm cool with giving SO a try.  It would
>> definitely be nice to have stock answers to common questions in a more
>> easily searchable place.
>>
>> If this starts happening, someone please report back here and let others
>> know what we have to do to get involved.
>>
>> Britton
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Sam Skillman <samskillman at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Okay so I think I've switched my opinion on using scicomp here,
>>> primarily based on the discussion here:
>>> http://meta.scicomp.stackexchange.com/questions/338/can-scicomp-stackexchange-be-used-for-project-specific-questions/339#339
>>>
>>> The main point is -- if the questions are general in nature, i.e. "what
>>> would be a good way to visualize/analyze this data in this way" would be
>>> great, but questions of "i'm having a problem using feature X in frontend
>>> Y" would not be appropriate. Personally, I can imagine many more very
>>> yt-specific questions being asked as opposed to big picture, but maybe i'm
>>> wrong.  I'd say we just start using stack overflow and see how it shakes
>>> out.
>>>
>>> If we're game, I'd say we ask a few planted questions and answer them
>>> ourselves, and if a question comes up on a mailing list that is answered on
>>> SO, then point to it.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alright, so I guess we're in sort-of agreement?  What's next?  Do we
>>>> want to just skip the main site, try for SciComp, encourage people
>>>> (and even ask/answer questions ourselves) and start following the tag?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Sam Skillman <samskillman at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'd be happy to reach out to the sci comp folks. They field questions
>>>> for a
>>>> > few other codes so it may be a good fit.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm a +1 on trying it out. It also has the added benefit of a rewards
>>>> > structure.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sam
>>>> >
>>>> > On Nov 17, 2013 11:11 AM, "Nathan Goldbaum" <nathan12343 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Didn't realize one needs very high reputation to create a new tag - I
>>>> >> guess that makes sense though.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While fragmentation is bad, I'd argue that StackOverflow's high
>>>> google
>>>> >> ranking negates that somewhat.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are there any SO users with high reputations who might be interested
>>>> in
>>>> >> creating the tag?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Barring that, the scicomp beta exchange is also probably a good fit.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sunday, November 17, 2013, Matthew Turk wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi Nathan,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <
>>>> nathan12343 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> > Hi all,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > I recently subscribed to the [yt] tag on StackExchange.  Now,
>>>> whenever
>>>> >>> > a
>>>> >>> > question is asked using this tag on any StackExchange site, I
>>>> will get
>>>> >>> > an
>>>> >>> > e-mail about it, just like if a question is asked on the users or
>>>> dev
>>>> >>> > list.
>>>> >>> > Currently (as far as I can tell) zero questions have been asked
>>>> using
>>>> >>> > this
>>>> >>> > tag...
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > If there are a few others who are interested in subscribing to
>>>> the tag,
>>>> >>> > I
>>>> >>> > think it might be worthwhile to add StackOverflow to the website
>>>> and
>>>> >>> > docs
>>>> >>> > where we describe how to get help and also announce on the user’s
>>>> list
>>>> >>> > that
>>>> >>> > StackOverflow is an alternate place to ask questions.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > While this might split the community somewhat - not everyone will
>>>> be
>>>> >>> > subscribed to StackOverflow and thus might miss useful info - I
>>>> think
>>>> >>> > moving
>>>> >>> > some helpful suggestions to StackOverflow will massively improve
>>>> >>> > googleability of common yt issues, allowing us to avoid answering
>>>> the
>>>> >>> > same
>>>> >>> > questions over and over again.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > It might also be worthwhile to ask and answer some common yt
>>>> questions.
>>>> >>> > Off
>>>> >>> > the top of my head, I think we could at least answer how to load
>>>> >>> > various
>>>> >>> > types of datasets into yt.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In principle, I'm okay with this.  But I have a few concerns --
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 1) I don't think the tag "yt" can be created unless someone with
>>>> high
>>>> >>> reputation does so.  (
>>>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/create-tags )
>>>> >>> 2) We have well-defined usage metrics that we can quantify based on
>>>> >>> mailing list activity, so this may fragment that.
>>>> >>> 3) Many of the existing contributors and users don't want another
>>>> inbox.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *However*.  SO is really quite good for evolving questions and for
>>>> an
>>>> >>> updateable reference.  I do really like that aspect.  But I think we
>>>> >>> may find ourselves getting a bit fragmented -- in fact, what I see
>>>> as
>>>> >>> being a possible outcome is that if yt does end up growing into an
>>>> >>> interdisciplinary space, we'd see people from non-Astro disciplines
>>>> >>> using it, but retaining our original core audience here.  All your
>>>> >>> points really are good ones.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I don't know.  Could be awesome.  And, I'd like to see us embrace
>>>> more
>>>> >>> modern and useful methods of communication and outreach.  So ... I
>>>> >>> guess the experiment could be a good one!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -Matt
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > -Nathan
>>>> >>> >
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