[yt-dev] Release 2.5?

Sam Skillman samskillman at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 21:42:10 PDT 2012


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Kuhlen <mqk at astro.berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
> > Hi Jeff
> >
> >
> >> Holy crap, I didn't realize
> >>
> >> pip install yt
> >>
> >> was a goal! that would be awesome.
> >
> > In that case you may be interested in this ubuntu PPA I made a little
> while
> > ago, for yt (2.4) and yt-devel (2.5):
> > https://launchpad.net/~kuhlen/+archive/ppa
> >
> > The current version of yt-devel is based on changeset 467f57b (from
> 08/24).
> > I need to update it...
>
> I completely forgot to update the web page!  I will do this either
> tomorrow or Thursday (although if anybody wants to issue a pull
> request to the website with the info, it can be redeployed asap.)
> Thank you again for doing this!
>
> I think the PPA, Kacper's ebuild, having pip install work, and TomR's
> MacPorts are all really, really good reasons to start focusing on
> reducing the install script overhead, handling things like
> dependencies in a more clear way, and making yt work as an independent
> software package much better.  And I think the more we move into this
> area the more we should try to have a rolling, regular release
> schedule.  Does that ring true to everybody else, too?  The more we
> have the ability to install yt independently of hg, independently of
> the install_script, the more we should try to make a regular release
> schedule with it.
>

Yes!  I personally think regular releases should be nearly automated based
on the passing of tests at regular intervals (i.e. monthly/quarterly).  If
we are diligent about setting up BB issues that track individual
enhancements, even the features  changelog could be easily generated.

Sam


> -Matt
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Casey,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Casey W. Stark <caseywstark at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Just so this is clear, if we are working on development that is not
> >> > testing,
> >> > should we move over to 3.0 now?
> >>
> >> Not yet, but soon.  Sorry, I should have been more clear -- I believe
> >> it's almost ready for primetime, and in a settled state for
> >> rectilinear, patch-based data.  I will update the list very, very soon
> >> on its state.  I'll go through the milestone list and take a crack at
> >> updating the tickets, the scripts, and report back.
> >>
> >> -Matt
> >>
> >> >
> >> > - Casey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Sam Skillman <samskillman at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds good to me.  I was actually also holding out a bit to
> >> >> incorporate
> >> >> testing into some of the new rendering capabilities anyways.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Sam,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Sam Skillman <samskillman at gmail.com
> >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > If the release timeframe is end of year, I will put in the alpha
> >> >>> > channel
> >> >>> > rendering, enabling a lot of cool things.  It is already
> functional
> >> >>> > in
> >> >>> > one
> >> >>> > of my forks, but it needs to be cleaned up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What if we said instead that we'd release as soon as unit testing is
> >> >>> ready and 3.0 is ready for daily use for patch-based AMR, and then
> if
> >> >>> you have time before that point to get the alpha channel in good,
> but
> >> >>> otherwise toss it into 3.0?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Matt
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Sam
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Matthew Turk <
> matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Hi Jeff,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM, j s oishi <jsoishi at gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Hi,
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Since testing is something that is so high priority for this,
> and
> >> >>> >> > otherwise 2.5 is just a stepping stone to 3.0 (which a *lot* of
> >> >>> >> > people
> >> >>> >> > are already diving into), maybe we should *only* include
> testing,
> >> >>> >> > unless there are some already done things we could toss in?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > j
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Come to mention it, I *really* like this idea.  Perhaps we should
> >> >>> >> identify a threshold for building out the non-core infrastructure
> >> >>> >> fixes (i.e., having "pip install yt" work, having a good set of
> >> >>> >> testing, etc etc) and then any other fixes or improvements that
> >> >>> >> happen
> >> >>> >> along the way are just icing on the cake?  I think having better
> >> >>> >> testing should definitely be the focus, particularly as we
> >> >>> >> transition
> >> >>> >> the codebase.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> -Matt
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Turk
> >> >>> >> > <matthewturk at gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> We should probably try to get a 2.5 release together by the
> end
> >> >>> >> >> of
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> year.  It would be really helpful if you are working on
> >> >>> >> >> something,
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> fill it out and target both milestone 2.5 and version 2.5 as
> an
> >> >>> >> >> issue.
> >> >>> >> >>  That way we can identify goals and push to stable.  Testing
> >> >>> >> >> should
> >> >>> >> >> perhaps be a huge focus of this release.  But, once it's
> done, I
> >> >>> >> >> think
> >> >>> >> >> we can try to transition to 3.0 for development.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Here's the current list, which may need curation a bit as some
> >> >>> >> >> seem
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> be completed or in progress:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> https://bitbucket.org/yt_analysis/yt/issues?status=new&status=open&milestone=2.5
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> If you want to subdivide something, create a new milestone and
> >> >>> >> >> target
> >> >>> >> >> *that*, but with *version* 2.5.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> -Matt
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> PS The new bitbucket redesign is quite nice!
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